Breeding for a long haired GSD pup Questions

Just a silly question ...
If you breed two long haired GSD's will their pups all be long haired?

Thanks

Nope, or not necessarilly. You can get both. Most reputable breeders will avoid long coats though.

Thanks for your reply. Why do they avoid long coats? I thought long haired GSD's were very popular.

No reason to this post really just interested

Long coats are a breed fault.

I don't think that they are:



Coat
Outer coat consisting of straight, hard, close-lying hair as dense as possible; thick undercoat. Hair on head, ears, front of legs, paws and toes short; on back, longer and thicker; in some males forming slight ruff. Hair longer on back of legs as far down as pasterns and stifles and forming fairly thick trousers on hindquarters. No hard and fast rule for length of hair.; mole-type coats undesirable

Yes long coats are a fault, "full" coats are fine.

So there are " hard and fast rules" about length of hair then?

The reason long coats are considered a breed fault is because they don't have the dense undercoat which is required.

Ahhh. thanks.

Some do, some don`t. I think there`s thread somewhere where Wildmoor explains it.

Too complicated for me.

I'll stick to mutts

There is no ruling on coat length as long as there is dense undercoat present.

Yes is the answer & constantly breeding longcoat to longcoat reduces the amount & type of undercoat, until eventually there is little or no undercoat at all, my friend has a GSD from 12 generations of LC to LC & he has hardly any undercoat at all & needs a coat in cold weather, whereas her correct coated GSD doesn't.

Longcoat is recessive to the correct coat & therefore longcoats can pop up in a mating of two correct coats.

I personally would always advise anyone looking for a longcoated GSD to get one from a litter from two correctly coated dogs that have been bred to the breed standard & not just the colour or length of their coat.

TBH no one should breed for just one feature of a dog, whether it be colour, coat etc, they should aim to breed healthy typical dogs that conform to the breed standard, then any dogs that are born longcoated/non standard colour will only have the cosmetic fault & not a physical one

FYI neither of our two stud dogs ever produced a longcoated puppy so it was highly probable that neither carried the LC gene

It seems there has been a bit of confusion in this thread from non-GSD owners, but actually if you breed longcoat to longcoat the pups are always longcoated.

You can breed standard coat to standard coat and also get the odd longcoat pup.

The longcoat is considered a fault, as some longcoats have no undercoat. Both of mine actually have plenty of undercoat.

mine too

So in these cases neither would technically be a fault in the show ring?

No neither of mine could technically be faulted on the length of their coat.

Always?

Our old GSD was from a litter of 6...Both parents were black and tan with really long gorgeous coats with undercoat..but only 4 of the litter were longcoated..the other 2 were normal shortcoats.

Well I have no idea how that can have happened, other than the bitch being mated with two different dogs (one long and one standard coated ) as longcoat to longcoat ALWAYS produces longcoat.