Trust - A Deadly Disease Discussions

Manners cost nothing Even in the World of sleddogs

Same can be said for the siberian. Those that choose to run can cover great distance. Eventually they will sit down and wonder 'where's my pack and my mummy ' Kaos was an example of this type of sibe, he would only return to Layla.

We can only ever pray that these guys are found and that they are not running loose near live stock or busy roads.

Take care Tassle.

Seoniad.

Actually not----it became compulsive reading when you joined in.

LOL

rune

You misunderstand - they didn't go deaf because I didn;t call them!

They went round one corner - I followed a tad slower and they were not there - at this point I will have called and they would not have been in hearing distance as they were half way back to the car!

You must have missed the rest of my post - I found them 10 mins later....waiting by my car!

Luckily - as I stated - there are no roads and no livestock around the places I allow my dogs to do this.

I really do have difficulty accepting that one breed of dog is untrainable. What about Afghan Hounds? They`re bred to run and hunt and people seem to manage them.
All dogs throw a deaf `un at times. It isn`t only huskies, you know. Bulldogs - now there`s a training challenge!

My an interesting thread, MickyB your dogs are adorable,

I know this is a thread about sides and northern breeds, but yet again Gnashers generalizations is mind blowing to say the least.

Firstly in her superior opinion, she yet again has the audacity to criticise owners for looking out for the welfare of their pets,

So a dog that does not get regular off lead exersice will be fat and bored


Its better to have lived and lost (her analogy) than be a responsible dog owner, ensuring your dogs are safe.


She knows better than ALL the breed clubs in the world on certain breeds, yet has never owned them:?

She is the only person on the planet that can guarantee the heritage of her wolf x, no sorry , Mal x, oops Ute x, or is it a sibe x.

She has a profound sense of elation, that she allowed her dog to escape and be killed on the road, doing what she liked best,

Mind these threads would not be the same without some of her wisdom thrown in for those lesser dog owners.

Personally these breed are not for me, not because I dont like them , but because having a dog that has to spend most of her life on a lead, I know , I would rather have dogs that are able to have free runs.

But I admire all the work you put into your dogs, and the responsible advice you all dish out......... well most of you!!

hello this is my first post , my son asked if he could have a dog i said yes and he brought back an 8 week old siberian husky .As she grew I realized she was no ordinary dog , I bought books and then went on the internet and found Mick B's welfare site ,this site helped me beyond believe .We now have a nearly 5 year old great dog who I would not be without .She is excerised on lead in the week and my son takes her to a large enclosed area on the weekends ,Mick and the rest of the people on the rescue site were right in everything they said, so I will believe them about huskies off lead . I'm just glad I didn't find Gnasher's opinions first , thanks Helen Thatcher

I am so pleased you found Mick B's site first, he certainly knows what he is talking about. I just hope any new Siberian Husky owners reading this thread will follow Mick's advice, or look at Siberian Husky Association advice, and not advice from someone like Gnasher who thinks she knows best. Keep your dog's safe.

Sorry Tassle. I was trying to stress the point that the dog lost the owner.

I did understand that you found the dog waiting by your car. I was speaking in terms of it's relation to the siberian husky. Sorry for the misunderstanding

Take care.

Seoniad.

im so glad you found micks site before you found some of the guys on here lol, its thanks to the breed clubs, breeder and us reponsible owners that your dog is still alive, im sure if you had spoke to a couple of the member on here 1st then your little girl would be offlead now? free to run under a car should she wish?

So which of the two is the strongest instinct then?

I couldn't give a definitive answer as I think no two situations are the same. However, I can give an example from last weekend. I was doing a 15 mile event with a four-dog team. About 8 miles in to the event, we came down a hill and there was a herd of cows in a field on our right. As we came level with the cows, one of my wheel dogs, Tovik, started to pull over towards the cows. I shouted "On By" and my lead dogs sped up and pulled Tovik away from the cows and up the hill without a backward look. On this occasion, their love of working outweighed their curiosity/prey drive.
If I had been in the same place with one of my dogs off-lead (even the most obedient of them) I think it would have been much, much more difficult to get the dog to pass the cows.

Mick

Ah right ! I geddit now

Helen : I am sure as an intelligent person you would not take just one person's viewpoint as gospel !!

I am as entitled to my opinions as anyone else - but they are just that ... OPINIONS !

I quite agree! I just will not accept that it is impossible to do something so basic as to walk off lead with a particular breed of dog.

How funny ... coincidentally, we met one of the Sibe owners in the woods whom we advised about trying to let their dog off the lead. Apparently, it has been a great success and they are kicking themselves for listening to the breeder. They have actually been very responsible and taken their dog to a local obedience class, where there beautiful boy stole the show apparently and is doing extremely well. He and Tai had a wonderful romp together ... and both dogs came back immediately when I whistled Tai, and the Sibe owners called. They feel cheated by the breeder who in their own words "fed them a pack of lies". I pointed out to them that in fairness to the breeders, their intentions are good, but they argued that they were told categorically that "it is absolutely impossible to let a Siberian Husky off the lead, because it will run and run and not come back" and felt very cheated.

My own personal point of view is that breeders should explain that their recommendation is that a Siberian Husky should not be let off the lead in an unenclosed space. However, there are people who do this, and that in their opinion it is a huge risk so we cannot condone it. But no ... these lovely people were told categorically No ! This to my mind is scaremongering in the extreme. Explain the dangers by all means, but it is just not true to say that ALL huskies cannot be let off the lead. I know at least 4 huskies, plus my Huskamute friend, all who live a life of exercise off the lead.

I guess my point is Husky people tend to say their breed can't be let off the lead due to the hard wired desire to run. If they're so unpredictable and untrainable in this way, then surely they'd be useless as sled dogs as they'd be so unpredictable they'd go deaf and take you off trail somewhere. If a Husky can be trained to follow a command pulling a sled, then surely with consistent training they could be trained to follow commands off lead.

Of course it would be more dangerous if the dog ignored commands off lead than on, but that's not the point I'm making. I guess I'm just one of those "terrible members" that doesn't buy the whole "Huskies can't go off lead" line anymore. I just think that Husky owners have had it drummed into them for so long that most are too terrified to even try. There are many, many other breeds that are bred to hunt, run and think independently and they're all fine off lead.

After all the Saluki was found to be one of the breeds closest to the wolf from it's DNA (if not the closest) and they were developed to hunt, yet they can be let off lead safely with plenty of training?

No offence intended here by the way, just my thoughts!