Looking for an Irish SBT Questions

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terrier' started by mrsgrim, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. mrsgrim

    mrsgrim New Member

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    Looking for an Irish SBT

    Hi,
    I am new to this forum and i am hoping someone could help me.
    I have a Irish Staffordshire bull terrier and he is now about 11 years old, we rescued him at the age of 2 years. We love him to peices, but he is friends with my parents new puppy and when we bring him home he seems to be very lonely (off his food ect...)
    Anyway we have discided to buy a pup but we do want another irish staff, does anyone know of anywhere we can get one from as i can't find one anywhere.
    Thanks for your help
    Emma
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  3. longford

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    Hello emma acording to this lot they do not exist and I have friend in essex that breeds them and these are not mongrels but proper staffords send me a pm and I will be able to put you in touch from good stock been breeding them 30 years
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    They can't be Irish Staffords and proper Staffords.

    Emma if you do buy one be careful it does not come under BSL and gets siezed as Type along with your old dog.
  5. longford

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    all im gonna say lead staffs is drs strain :grin: real deal you wouldnt know what a proper stafford was ;-)
  6. Jackie

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    Wouldn`t that be a Staffordshire Bull Terrier!!!:? :?
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    As you don't know me and what I know you are not qualified to make that statement.
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    Hello Emma
    Due to the section 1 of Dangerous dogs Act, you need to be careful, as this covers pit bull types, which are illegal.
    Stupid, but true.

    I dont know if there are genuine breeders of Irish Staff.
    There may well be?

    However, there are many dubious breeders, as the terms Irish and American Staffies are known as pseudonyms for pit bull type breeds.

    The authorities are well informed in this area, and make policing policy based on such breed names.

    The problem is that Irish staffie isnt a recognised breed by the Irish or British Kennel Clubs, and they can be bred long legged, which is one of the defining characteristics of "pit bull type" under the law.
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    Wow!
    How rude!

    I would personally take the advice of someone who knows the breed inside out and is the secretary of one of the breed clubs anyday. :)

    Agree with the other posters,
    I would advise caution as many of these types have been caught up in BSL.
  10. leadstaffs

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    :lol: That twice this week :roll:
  11. longford

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    Well I may not know you but I certainly know you dont move in the real stafford circles and if you did I have certainly not heard of you and we are not on about show circles as for the rest of you these dogs are with in standard and registered maybe should of worded it irish strain:grin:
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    Fine you can carry on and make your judgements based on your own narrow mindedness.

    I don't have a problem with any dog of any breed and I wish everyone could own the dog they want.
    But the fact is in this country many Irish staffords are "type" which means they look like a Pit Bull.
    They are often peddled by people who misrepresent them.
    But an Irish Stafford is not a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
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    What are the "real stafford circles" you are referring too ?
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    What is an irish stafford then?as most irish staffords are infact staffs and look nothing like an APBT we are talking about genuine dogmen and not hoodies peddling mutts these have been around many years way before the dda.Then you have people that presume any longer legged staff is an irish staff as for type there are kc dogs that look like apbt and are genuine dogs and there are apbts that look like staffs its a very fine line.

    Also it was a propoganda buzz word created by the times newspaper and the lines they were going on about were infact irish dogs and not apbts .

    Also this sunday they printed another article in the times they started there propoganda again on bullbreeds as this sells papers,also there is a comment on there telling people the best way to deal with them is squirt anti freeze in there eyes

    As for narrow mindedness maybe look closer to home and learn the truth about genuine irish stafford strains from the working trials in ireland.
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    Emma if you do buy one be careful it does not come under BSL and gets siezed as Type along with your old dog.[/QUOTE]

    This is what I posted. I did not say don't get one I said be careful. Be careful that it does not come under BSL.

    What is narrow minded about that.
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    Now why don't you advise Emma on how she can get a nice one that does not come under BSL from your real Irish Stafford circles
  17. Jackie

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    Perhaps you can enlighten us to what an Irish Staff is then...because it is not Staffordshire Bull Terrier

    If as you say, they are KC registered, they will be Stafforshire Bull Terriers, OR Bull Terriers, whether they are good examples of their breeds is another matter, they will NOT be Irish Staffords , or Irish Staffordshire Bull Terriers!!
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    If you read my original post maybe you would see that was already mentioned :grin:
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    They will not be registered with the KC but with an alternative registration
  20. longford

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    they are irish strains ;-) down from good dogs that could win in the show ring and the IKC trials that is irish kennel club

    The fact is true irish dogs were from kc stock these were called irish staffs to distinguish them from the english dogs this was untill the press and puppy peddlers started abusing the name and peddling mongrels
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    I will think you will find these are kc registered :grin: you really need a lesson on some of the irish strains and you say im narrow minded

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