Would you pay £120. Questions

Hi,

I haven't voted yet because I can see it from both sides. On one hand, I also take rescue dogs, Yiannis being my most recent and he cost me £140 from Birmingham DH. Had I had the other GSD pup at the same time I would've paid £200 for both of them together.

Seto didn't coast me anything but I'm still in touch with his owner and they see a lot of each other.

Ellie is the only x breed dog I've had from a BYB and I refused to pay for her. I was threatened with the police and accusations of theft and I told them to go ahead and call them. I never heard from them again.

If you can be sure that there will be no more pups from the bitch and that it wasn't a money manking venture, then I think if you had all the right info to make it clear the pups would make great family pets with young children then possibly. Particularyl bcause, as everyone has pointed out, apparently dogs and yougn children don't mix well.
(Funny I have a 4 year old and 4 large breed dogs!)

I think I'd be more concerned with spending even more time with the pup I was intending to take on and education my childrne to have respect from day one and how to treat a dog. Only once any kids in the home can treat a dog properly would I consider having one in the home, regardless of where it came from.

Laura xx

I would be quite happy to pay the price if I wanted a pup

120 quid is too cheap for a pup, too easy for people not to miss the money so probs find it easy getting rid if the pup became a nuisance to the owner...if some one was breeding, whether it be a cross or not, the price has to reflect the new owner has a genuine interest, do you know what I'm trying to say ?

Agreed

Still a big no in my case. There are rescues out there that will rehome to homes with younger children and I just couldn’t support bad breeders, – regardless of what age the kids were or the cross of the puppies.

I would much rather wait until I could either go to a reputable breeder, was there a reason that couldn’t be done? or find a rescue that would consider us than do the ‘I want a puppy right now – regardless how its bred’ route.

The price IMO doesn’t come into it – whatever price whether over £1000 for a doodle or £100 for a lurcher its still going into the pocket of unreputable breeders or a puppy farm.

Also as this is a very specific cross I wouldn’t think it was an accidental mating and even if they didn’t know the dog could still impregnate the bitch it could have been stopped, especially if they had had the dog less than 2 weeks – ie no idea what real temperament was like.

Im amazed a good rescue wouldn’t have pointed this out to the rehomers especially if they knew the bitch was in season, which presumably the owners knew, wouldnt they have waited until she was out of season to take a new dog in?

Sorry it sounds harsh, but Ive seen far too many lurcher pups in rescue or pts because of people like this when they couldn’t find buyers.

If I wanted a new puppy, and having spent time with the breeder, I would probably pay the money. Speaking as the owner of 3 kids aged 3 to 9 and 3 dogs. Kids growing up with puppies is no bad thing. My middle daughter was frightened of dogs until we got ours. Now she knows how loveable and reliable a friend they are, if you treat them right. Mine all have learnt to respect the rule "let sleeping dogs lie"

I put maybe, same as asking would I pay £600 for a ped rottie or weim, depends what I was after and the parents/breeder e.t.c...

IMHO I think that you are being a bit too harsh, you are judging the breeders, who are people that you haven't met, if they really were that unreptable why would they take time out of their day to ring up to see how the pups were?

People make mistakes, and if I didn't take one of these pups then someone else would, or they would of ended up in a rescue home costing the rescue to rehome them, or would them going to a rescue to be rehomed be better :?

Why wouldn't it be a accident? Again I think that you are judging them with out knowing, they had a Sauki bitch, and then went to get a Greyhound a ex racer straight from the racing kennels that he came from, and got to meet and greet the dog way before they got him as they liked him, not because of what he was or anything, and there has been many accidental matings, why does the breeds involved have any thing to do with whether it was a accident or not :?

And they wanted to take them back, so I don't think that they were going to put any more dogs in rescue, besides when they called back up my mum wanted another pup but they were all gone, and not to rescues either.

This breeder, ok there was no health tests, but they have treated their pups better then some pedigree breeders, its not like we went to a puppy mill or anything, we went there, saw two healthy parents, five healthy puppies and had pick of the litter, just because they were cross breeds doesn't make them a bad breeder in my book, its how they treat the dogs, not what the dogs are!!

Maybe if you saw the dogs then you would think differently, but comparing a family who put a lot of love and care into their dogs to a puppy farmer is totally out of order in my book. I just don't get it, if puppy farm dogs were treated as good as their dogs were, then well I'd be happy with puppy farmers, but they don't they treat their dogs like machines, and not as part of the family.

YES.

if its a dog that you want and are satisfied that its been well reared and have seen the parents then why not

ALL dogs have been bred by a breeder wether or not they are in rescue.

my X was from Ireland, bred by someone who had no regard for the mum or the pups, hence the pups going to rescue. then being shipped over here in horrendous conditions and being shoved in an open barn in winter. the whole litter were only 8wks old needless to say they wern't in good health or condition.

so you see the rescue route is not always the best option, its really down to your own judgement to wether the pup is right for your family.

£120 is reasonable for a X.

i voted no. i would never, or will never, buy any dog from a breeder. their are too many dogs in rescues that i could never justify buying from a breeder. i dont know why so many people do support breeders. jake was from a rescue, he is a crossbreed and was 7 weeks when i got him, and he is an amazing dog

lauren

I agree, i got my puppy from a rescue with no problem at all even though i have a 2 nieces (age 2 + 4) and a nephew (age 5) who are round at my house everyday and stay at least 2 weeks a night. and before i got him, i was looking at an 18 month old female and all i had to do was take my nieces and nephew in to meet her to make sure they all got on. didnt get her coz of my mum though.

Yeah, but if you buy from a breeder you are supporting them and, if they have intentionally bred, encouraging them to breed again. if everyone stopped buying from breeders the breeders would be forced to stop, as they would make no money from it. that would seriously help the overpopulation of dogs and help those unforunate ones in rescues

lauren

But ALL dogs come from breeders originally so indirectly you are supporting them, the rescue is just the second hand shop.

I find that statement offensive. It sounds like you are saying rescue dogs are crap/spoiled goods because they are 'second hand'.

How is a 7 week old puppy 'second hand'.

I wouldn't swap my rescue dog for 10 pedigrees

oiy..leave pedigrees out of it...lol you can get some lovely pedigrees in rescue

Aw Shona

I meant a pedigree from a breeder (the posh shop versus the crappy second hand shop ).

(Not that I'm saying all breeders are bad or anything, I just prefer to rescue one)

but a lot of them are crossbreeds that havent been intentionally bred. my pup jake wasnt intentionally bred, it was an accident and the owners didnt know what to do so handed them to the sspca. they didnt try to make any money off the pups (they could have tried to sell the pups themselves as they were 7 weeks when handed in) and i highly doubt they will let their female get pregnant again. and, with the purebreeds or intentionally bred, its not supporting them, by the time the dog has got to the rescue, the breeder has already made their money. so whether or not the pups they sell end up in a rescue, has no effect on them at all. it is the people directly supporting them that are giving them the money and incentive to carry on and breed again

lauren

So it is wrong for someone who has had an accidental litter to try and sell them?
They should hand them into a charity instead?

It does not sound like the people in the OP will be breeding from thier bitch. Why do these puppies not deserve the chance at a home straight from the Mum instead of going through an extra home (or maybe 2 or 3 depending on the foster poilcy of the rescue home).

i agree both my dogs have been rescues. got my first one when he was 6 months, and he was the best dog ive ever met! he was soooo well behaved and was so gentle and loving. and now i have jake, who was 7 weeks when i got him and so far he is amazing too (only 12 weeks lol), he has one hell of an attitude lol

lauren

How do you work out that getting a rescue supports the breeder? How does the breeder benefit from a person taking a rescue?

I can see how going to rescue could stop BYB/puppy farms. e.g.

e.g. BYB has a litter of pups purely with the aim of making money.
option 1 - people buy the pups from the breeder...breeder thinks 'this is easy money' = breeds again and again

option 2 - people go to the rescue for a pup. BYB can't sell the pups..breeder thinks 'this isn't as easy money as I thought'...has to give pups away = is not tempted to breed any further.

untie your knickers

if i wanted to say they were crap/spoiled goods then i would :-o
ok lets say they are the 'unwanted' same thing really.

i've had a good percentage of both pedigree and rescue dogs and neither are better than the other.