What other wolf crosses have their been Discussions

I was also wondering this, it does seem strange Alady that you run a club and don't know the names of your breeders.
Thanks Alady for your earlier post pointing out some of those breeders have had pups with health problems, you saved me looking

Actually i do think its excellent that your breeders are now being more responsible and health testing your dogs, well done. On the flip side of that its something they should have considered before starting out breeding is it not.

Also, just to confirm it was me who said - i would check, not Dawn.

No, I have never met Hal's parents. And I now know who the mother is, having had my bad writing confirmed. It is now obviously a grave sin to have bad writing on Dogsey ... how very tiresome

Back in those days, Eddie kept all her lines in her head. This is why the utes and the ni's are in such a mess IMO. She didn't like to write anything down, and her untimely death caused no end of a ******'s muddle.

Lovely dogs Tazer - lovely rear ends too !! Nice to see good size labs. The Famous Five that I know are all very small, I do like nice big labbies like my Flint.

Sigh. No ClaireandDaisy, only in MY opinion. Back then, Lizzie's pedigree was apparently to die for. If you ask any GSP breeder in the know about the Wittekind line, they will tell you it is one of the best of the working GSP lines. Not that I cared a fig for such things, I was given Lizzie at 6 months old. Even back then, I was unimpressed by so-called top pedigrees.

In the late 70's, early 80's, things were totally different in the dog world - pre-DNA and at a time when we knew little or nothing about the dangers of inbreeding, back when we knew nothing about the genetic make-up of all living things etc. etc. When we thought that docking was perfectly OK, when we thought it was fine to go out to work and leave your dog at home all day, etc. etc. I can't believe the things I thought were perfectly OK back then.

That would be great, and Ill tell you what, I bet we would all get along too, bizzarely!!!

If you say in one post that your pedigree dog was inbred and then that you bred her anyway and then that say you don`t care about pedigrees it`s not surprising I find your posts confusing.

No it is not a sin to have bad writing not at all, did I say that? I was pointing out that you did not have a pedigree. Well you really did your research for Hal didn't you, never even saw his parents his parents could well have been anything, deary me what a way to buy a pup. So really all this talk about him being a high percentage wolf cross is just hearsay and wishful thinking on your part. After all how could anyone know, when Eddie kept it in all in her head and the lady has passed on. I find that strange coming from someone who doesn't believe anything unless they see proof of it.

Both good points, you wouldnt believe the amount of things Hal has been in his life, have a beak at Patch's posts in this section when you get a min.

What always amazes me about these type of threads is 'people' coming on singing the praises about one group or another, one dog or another, one breeder or another who are doing fantastic things and all you have to do is slightly scrape the surface and wham s**t hits the fan and you see them all for what they are and what they have really done.

Why do they come on?

I am more than capable of reading between the lines, Heather, it was your implied tone of condecension and implied criticism !

We spent several months just trying to find Eddie. At the time we were interesting in buying a wolf cross, the doo doo had hit the fan and she was keeping a very low profile. Once we "found" her, it took several years for her to trust us enough to sell a puppy to us. You have to remember that by this stage wolf crosses were illegal. Following Julie Kelham's court case, any dog of more than 1% wolf was illegal, as ridiculous as that sounds, so Eddie was very, very careful about who she sold her puppies to. Yes, with hindsight we should have seen the parents, but having waited years and visited her several times, we were not in a position of superiority to demand terms. I trusted her 100% and my trust was well founded. We had 10 years living with the most gorgeous and wonderful animal I could ever have hoped for.

Just been reading thanks Dawn.;-) See I just knew Gnasher hadn't a clue what Hal actually was, it's obvous isn't it. Unless of course she had the ultimate dog that could change into any breed that took her fancy that day. Gnasher your lies are on here for all to see if they wish to find them. Shame on you.

So you bought an illegal dog, (if we believe that) and also bred from him. Absolutely disgusting. And you being a legal secretary didn't solicitor friends advise you that you were breaking the law and also helping others break the law.

Shame on you too for speaking ill of the dead.

I care not a jot what you think or not think, I know who and what my darling boy was and that is all that matters. If you choose to wallow in your own pool of gleeful jealous spite because you think you have unearthed some juicy little titbit or other, then please feel free. I shall just laugh, Hal is by now a skeleton in his grave under my hawthorn tree and whatever you say about him is just a load of hot air and can no longer hurt him.

Shame on you ... I hope when your beloved pet has sadly passed away no-one speaks ill of him.

Whitch is why she had to lie about him, because if she told the truth back then, he'd have been taken and either spent the rest of hiw life in a zoo or similar, or destroyed.

I'm not arguing that she loves her dogs, that much is obvious. I however, cannot agree to buying a then illegal animal and breeding it, that is quite irrisponsable. I hope that she has learned better now.

I'd love a pitbull, but for obvious reasons am not about to get one, even though I am very much able to do so, if I so choose. I couldn't live like that, thinking that at any time my dog could be taken from me, and pts.

Thanks for your support Tazer, however, there is a difference to say the least between Hal and a pitbull !! Hal was a danger to no-one - well, apart from rabbits, pheasants and cats ! Oh, and my poor garden !

Bringing on that sob card again, you always seem to do that when you are found out, strange but so predictable. I have nothing bad to say about Hal he was the innocent party in all this cr*p. Am I bovvered, NO, keep spouting your rubbish, it gets quite entertaining reading what lies you might come out with next. I shall never take any of your posts seriously, they are just so full of sh*t.

I'm sure your garden will get over it, eventually.

Was just using that as a comparison. A pitbull, like any dog is how you raise it, teach it well, and you'll have a loyal balanced pet. But the law being the way it is, means that most of the time, but not always, the people who shouldn't have them, or any dog, are the ones who own them.