What other wolf crosses have their been Discussions

Allow me Gnasher

Utes we are talking here, a list of breeders who have all health tested their dogs and also litter eye screen pups, DNA test, microchip, all Utes are now asked for definate Hip and eye test prior to breeding, now we have ALL started elbow scoring at the same time (even though this generally shows up prior to breeding age specified by the KC) and most breeders are now testing for Vons as well.
All provide an after sale pup care, all take back any pups if they ever require it, all vet check and innoculate prior to pup leaving!!

Julie Yule
Karen Clark
Loraine Niven
Dawn Latham
Liz Carr
June Clark
Eleanor ?
Janine
Jackie
LynnB

to name a few!!! and there are a good few more

Can you do the same for NI / BI?

I would imagine the people who are purchasing them and trying to understand what is what find it VERY confusing.

Totally agree, how many of the breeders websites even bother to explain it for the public.

Have some of the people on this list not produced pups that have gone on to be epileptic? I will get back to you on this one in a few days when i have time to look.

Isn't that the same GSD that was used in the creation of this crossbreed?

In the creation of the Saarloos? No- as I said the UK showstock. Saarloos was meticulous.

In the NI, yes there is some GSD and yes im sure there were some problems (many of which crossed out rather than inbred like with the KC). None in my dogs so far though.

What about the KC or my numerous other unanswered questions on previous posts? As usual ignored or dismissed by some if theres any truth.

Off out for some Tapas and dancing!

Bye bye for now to all my lovelies!!!

Saarloos was a Man amongst Men IMO. Reading his history is absolutely fascinating. He was meticulous, he was thorough; he went down many blind alleys which at the beginning started out to be so promising, to create what he considered was a perfect new breed - the Saarloos Wolfhound. He was absolutely dedicated and ruthless in his pursuit of perfection. I am told - and it is only a rumour, I have absolutely nothing concrete to base this rumour on - that his niece I think it is who has taken up the reins is less so, but it is just that as far as I am concerned, a rumour. I know absolutely nothing about the Saarloos, and have never met one, so therefore I would not dream of commenting on an authoratorive basis. I was, however, told this by someone I would trust, bearing in mind it was definitely in their interest to slate the breed.

Didn;t think the Saarloos was a cross

Have you looked at some NI pedigrees !!

I cannot believe you will find one person in this discussion who will condone the breeding of dogs with health or temperment issues.
Sorry - been in such a rush I have probably missed some of your questions...post them again =- I wilol do my best answer...as someone who does not breed (yet) and owns mainly crossbreeds.

Enjoy!

I agree, and God bless 'em all for the beautiful dogs they are. Vive la difference !!

Yes - I have heard that as well....thank god we have ethics nowadays.

Eddie Harrison, the original "wolf dog" breeder in this country, told me that I could do no better than go to Lyn Barraclough for a pup to keep Hal company - this was when Eddie had lost her husband, and was selling up the farm and moving to Lincolnshire and retiring from breeding wolf crosses. As far as I am concerned, I wholeheartedly agree with Eddie's advice - with the greatest respect to those others on your list I prefer to keep my powder dry. One of my other bestest friends is on that list !

I will say no more than that ... l

Yes indeed Tassle, and because of his extreme dedication and ruthlessness in the pursuit of health and perfection I am very drawn to the Saarloos. I am worried though by the rumour I heard simply because of the source from which it came. When the time is right though, I will make my own mind up. Sadly, it's just not the right time at the moment for us to find a friend for Tai

I guess it depends on your definition of perfection.....
There is nothing that can be done about what has happened in the past...hopefully people learn but it is not always the case.

I hope when the time does come for you the option is open to be able get a Saarloos......

i think i explained it kinda wrong,i meant ,they have been bred to 'keep' their wolfie look as far as i know (and im no expert)the content is roughly 28% and is a closed gene pool
but the desired temprement is NOT that of a wolf they have been bred to work.

Are you saying the BUA is seperate from the "British Ute'" then as a breed? As the "breed standard" on the site does not mention "British" in it.

Im sorry did you NOT want me to get the facts first? I suppose the double account was a lie too wasnt it?

Absolutely agree Tassle, and I hope too about the Saarloos option!

Who cares? We are not talking about a breed recognised by the KC, thank goodness